May 2019

#366: Tales from Two Seattle Mother Runners Recorded at Nuun HQ

Sarah and Molly roadtripped to Seattle to host this episode in front of a live (and lively!) audience at Nuun headquarters. Molly is in fine form, cracking countless jokes—be ready to laugh out loud while running! The two #motherrunner guests—Jamie Richard (aka @NurseRunner on Instagram) and Christine McHugh—are Nuun ambassadors, and the conversation covers:

–Jamie’s start in running less than a decade ago, yet how she’s already run 33 (and counting!) marathons

–How Jamie juggles working as a pediatric E.R. nurse and training

–Ultramarathon advice from Jamie, a veteran of numerous 50K and 50-mile races

–Running in the rain (hello, Seattle!)

–How Christine overcame her fear of running outside

–How (and why) Christine spells running “c-o-m-m-u-n-i-t-y”

–Anecdotes about being a half-marathon pacer

–And, of course, the guests’ favorite flavors of Nuun!

 

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Meet #Motherrunner Jamie Richard: ER Nurse + Ultra Runner + All Around BAMR

Jamie Richard, 39, is a mom of two boys in Tacoma, Washington, a pediatric ER nurse, Marathon Maniac (27 and counting with a PR of 3:19), three-time Boston marathoner, ultra runner, NUUN athlete, popular InstaGrammer and blogger. Whew. I’m tired just typing all that.

She’s seriously, dangerously, contagiously enthusiastic, even over the wires. If you were to read her Nurse Runner blog about, say, the 30-day Burpee Challenge, which requires doing 50—FIFTY!—burpees a day for 30 days straight, you might be inspired to try the 30-Day Burpee Challenge yourself. Even if you have studiously avoided doing burpees … ever.

And then you might modify the challenge from 50 burpees down to 30 burpees, because really, 50 burpees is a lot, and probably not even safe. And NO WAY you are doing a pushup in a burpee, even though she does, because that’s just insane. (Plus, can you even DO more than one or two pushups? I can’t.) And after one day of doing 30 burpees, you might abandon the whole enterprise, because really, you don’t want to do any burpees at all. Ever. You just want her abs. And the wine.

Jamie is a featured guest on next week’s live Podcast at Nuun HQ in Seattle (RSVP here: there’s still room for you!), and in advance of the show, we thought it’d be fun to get to know her a little.

I didn’t tell her how much everything still hurts thanks to my Nurse Runner-inspired one-day 30-burpee challenge. Ouch.

Jamie with her husband and sons Owen, 9, and Aiden, 12

How did you get into running?

My sister in law asked me to run a 5K on Thanksgiving about 8 years ago. I said, “Sure, why not!” I wore yoga pants that looked like pajama bottoms. I had no idea what I was doing! I remember it rained the whole time. I loved every minute of it! I was hooked after that! I signed up for my first half marathon about a week after my first 5K!

And how did that lead to ultras?

I had always been a road runner. My friend had asked me to sign up for a 30K trail race near our house. I am always up for a new challenge, so I said yes. But there was a 50K option. And I chose that one instead. This was about 3 years ago. And again, it rained—no, poured—the whole time! It was so muddy! I loved it!

As far as the 50 milers go, my friend Jason asked me to run a 50-mile trail race with him. We were on the track doing a training run. I said, “Sure, why not!!” Oh man, I had no idea what I was getting myself into! I would love to do a 100-mile race some day.

You’re a mom, a nurse, AND an ultra runner! How does that work, schedule-wise?

I work 12-hour shifts. So I mostly do several in a row and then get around 5 days off. My husband is a nurse too. We pretty much work opposite schedules so we don’t have to do childcare for the boys. So far, we have made it work. We have never had to send the boys to daycare. My boys are 9 and 12 now. They are finally at the age where I can go on an hour run and leave them at home. I have trails one mile from my house.

I do most of my runs and long runs while the boys are in school. Summers are a bit harder. Soccer starts soon for the boys, so I will use their practice time to run as well. I have to just run when I can fit it in. So I run at any time during the day. Even if that means the hottest part of the day.

Sometimes, people in the professional medical world can be unhealthy. Does that make you “stand out” at work, as the one who IS healthy?

Yes! It totally does. People at work know I run a lot. I also eat really healthy. We have a lot of potlucks. I usually have enough will power to say no to the bad stuff. Coworkers who know me have gotten used to this. But new coworkers just look at me like I am crazy! I think I am known as “the runner” at work. Everyone knows if we have a work meeting on my day off, I am either running before or after the meeting! There are also trails near the hospital.

And why are medical people sometimes unhealthy anyway—is it because of the hours?

I think people in medical field, especially ER nurses, are so busy, we eat what and when we can. The medical field is also known for potlucks. And if you are busy and don’t have time for a lunch break, you just go grab something from the potluck, shove it in your mouth and go back to work.

What’s your favorite (run) workout? And your least favorite?

My favorite is probably a tempo run. Not too fast and not too slow. It’s perfect! My least favorite is a speed workout on the track. I avoid that place like the plague! I hate sprinting.

What’s your favorite race and why?

Oh man, this is a hard one! I would say the Boston Marathon. I love the whole weekend and experience. I love that you have to earn a spot at this race. I have run Boston three times now and each time is amazing! I love the town, the race, the volunteers. It’s the best!

Tell us about your hardest race:

This one is easy! White River 50 Mile trail race! I ran it last August and it was my third time running it. I am pretty sure I block out all the hard parts before I sign up for this race every year! It’s usually 80-90 degrees, and the course is rugged trail with over 10,000 feet elevation gain. It’s literally the hardest thing I have ever done in my life.

And of course, all important: Favorite Flavor of Nuun?

I have favorite flavors for each kind of Nuun! Watermelon is my favorite electrolyte flavor. Blackberry Citrus for the vitamins, Blueberry Tangerine for the immunity. And Orange Mango for the performance!

Join Jamie, Sarah and co-host + BRF Molly at Nuun HQ
Tuesday, May 28 (next week!) at 7 pm
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#363: Secrets and Advice from Race Directors

Sarah and Dimity are coming to you from Eau Claire, Wisconsin, as part of the AMR Retreat. Joining the duo in front of a live audience is Emi Uelmen, race director for the Eau Claire Marathon (and mom of four!), and Steph Toutant, who orchestrates merchandise and volunteers for the race (and has three young kids).

Learn the story of how the Eau Claire Marathon became a family affair—Emi and Steph are sisters-in-law and several other family members are involved in putting on the race. Be surprised by all the last-minute details that crop up in race planning. Marvel at the innovative steps taken to make this mid-sized race have maximum impact for participants and spectators. Laugh along with Sarah over “circular balloons.

Run the free NYRR Virtual Global Running Day One-Mile race Powered by Strava anywhere, anytime between June 1-9. And make the pledge to run on Global Running Day, June 5, at globalrunningday.org/AnotherMotherRunner.

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Another Mother Runner Eau Claire Running Retreat: The Recap

The signature Eau Claire hat, given to all retreaters and sported by Karyn, and a bunch of happy BAMRs doing a pre-race shake out across one of Eau Claire’s many beautiful bridges. (The half-marathon and marathon courses crossed 11!)

Unlike last fall’s Cape Cod AMR Retreat, during which Ma Nature dumped a ton of rain on a bunch of resilient BAMRS, this weekend in Eau Claire, she decided to let herself shine, and shine, and shine.

Which is, of course, a really good thing 95% of the time.

But before we get to race-day weather, let’s talk about what else was shining as we ran, learned (from Justin Ross, Ellie Kempton, Kolleen, a TriggerPoint guru, and the Train Like a Mother coaches), yoga’d, push-up’ed, ate local cheese and other delicious foods, celebrated, laughed, chatted and chatted, and connected:
Yes, that would be BAMRs shining all.weekend.long!

80+ smiles, representing 31 states, Canada, and Australia!

Smiles from Team AMR lasted the whole weekend—and are still plastered on our faces.

Sisters Judith and Sarah driving in. Attendees included four sets of sisters, one set of sister-in-laws, one aunt/niece combo, a cousin duo, and three mother/daughter pairs join us in Eau Claire, bringing a new dimension to the term BAMR FAM.

100% guaranteed Emi, the race director and a #motherrunner, is smiling as she chats with the BAMRs about the weekend ahead.

Because the ECM team, a family affair, is the kind of organization that pays attention to the details. “Seriously?!,” says Jenny, “What kindness to pick up on birthdays in registration and attach a card to my bib!”

They’re also the kind of race organizers that give BAMRs their own private port-a-john—perhaps the most celebrated part of the weekend.

Some race day lovelies: Kim + the first blue babe.

Sisters Brenda + Stacy and the second blue babe.

Linda, in the half-marathon. In true BAMR style, she befriended this college student in the first mile, and ran with her until the end.
(And her new BRF couldn’t believe how many random people were cheering for her at mile 7.5.)Janice looking like a blue babe: “Beat you to this found change, SBS!”

One of four AMR marathon relay teams: all had excellent names (Perfect Strangers; BAMRS over Bridges for two) and one was a little too overzealous!

 

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Kathy (on right) who ran the half-marathon: “When you watch your A goal go, and then your B goal, and begin to question your C goal, you just enjoy the mile you’re in and grab a nearby BAMR for a photo op at mile 8 or so … Grateful for a weekend of BAMR camaraderie.”

Back to that Ma Nature and her shining: Most of the crew who joined us in the Midwest were coming off a rough winter, and what looked like a cold, rainy day on most forecasts actually turned into a warm, mostly sunny race day.

It’s hard to complain about a warm day in Wisconsin in early May, so we won’t. It’s always a joy to dust off the tank tops and don the sunglasses.

Instead, we’ll take it as just another reminder to control what you can control on race day—your preparation, your attitude, your effort, your smile—and do your best not to worry about the rest.

Colleen and Nicole, mile 20.5 of the marathon, and they’re smiling—at least for this picture. They met for the first time at the Retreat, and supported each other for hours.

The runners didn’t have all the fun and smiles; our cheer squad, which grew over race morning, brought the noise and the funk.

Cara, who ran the 5K: “Thank you to all of you fabulous women. I came to this Retreat in an injury-related mental slump. But after spending the weekend basking in your amazing positive energy, I can safely say I have my running groove back!”

Safe to say all 80+ of us who landed in Eau Claire on a weekend in early May either found or polished up our running groove.

But we also found so much more:
friendships that will last over years and miles and races around the country;

memories that will continue to make us laugh out loud, even when we’re driving by ourselves (Cinnamon Toast Crunch!);

and, most importantly, the feeling that we can continue to grow individually in many directions because our roots are so firmly planted and nourished in our amazing community.

Want to join us at an AMR Retreat? 
We’ll be in Cape Cod in October of 2019;

We’ll be in Hilton Head in February of 2020;

And we’ll also be in at Rancho La Puerta in February of 2020

Mother Runner of the Month, April 2019: Meet Rachel Pieh Jones

We’re traveling around the globe to celebrate April’s Mother Runner of the Month: Rachel Pieh Jones, a 41-year-old mother of three (18-year-old boy/girl twins and a 13-year-old girl). A native Minnesotan, Rachel and her family have lived in Djibouti, Djibouti for over a decade.

“I can get kind of longwinded, especially when I’m passionate about something, like how I feel about women participating in sports and cross-cultural relationships,” the writer admits.

Longwinded? More like lovely! We want to hear more from Rachel, and will be chatting with her on an AMR bonus podcast that will be released on May 13th.

The Jones fam.

Into Africa: We’ve lived abroad since 2003: one year in Somaliland (northern Somalia) and 15 in Djibouti, a small pac-man shaped country on the Red Sea, bordered by Somalia, Ethiopia, Eritrea, and Yemen across the water.

How you properly pronounce Djibouti: Je-BOODY

From ‘sota to Somaliland: Minneapolis has the largest population of Somalis in the US. When we were first married, we lived in a high-rise complex filled with refugees from the Horn of Africa. My husband has a Ph.D. in education and a masters in engineering, and I studied linguistics.

We felt like we’d been given so much in terms of education and health, privilege and class, and wanted to be of service someplace internationally. So when our neighbors told us about Somaliland—a northern breakaway republic of Somalia—where life was peaceful (not the war-torn chaos of the south) and where the university was looking for English-speaking teachers to build up the next generation of leaders. My husband was offered a job, and we moved.

Running for their lives: In 2003, Somalia’s Mother Theresa, a woman who faced massacres, war, disease, terrorism, and gave her life to serve, was killed a few blocks from my house in Somalia. We had less than 30 minutes to pack one bag and fled with our twins in tow. Then another murder of a British couple happened, and we were evacuated.

We didn’t want to leave Africa yet, but those events spurred our move across the border to Djibouti.

We moved, and then we stayed. Three years ago, we launched our own preK-12 school, the International School of Djibouti.

(I have a biography about her coming out in October. The book is about love, courage, faith, and service and learning to reach across cultural and religious barriers, messages that I believe are so important today as we seem more and more divided.)

Rachel’s running start: A young woman came to work with us in Djibouti. She had just run a marathon in the US and wanted to keep running. She asked if it was safe in Djibouti for a woman to run and I didn’t know, so I said, “You should probably go with someone, just to make sure.”

She said, “You’re my boss and responsible for my safety, I’m going running. So you better come with me.” I did and our first mile had me dying, hands on my knees gasping, “People do this…for…fun?!” She just laughed. She was so much fun to be with that I started running just to hang out with her more.

And she’s hooked: Then another woman here told me about a 15km race in the desert, one of the flattest places on the entire planet. You just run straight for 15k. The start is two French fighter jets that do a flyby, zipping down over the mountains. There’s this bone-rattling BOOM and then you’re off, right at sunrise.

She made it sound so amazing that I decided to do it. Once I started training and racing, I was hooked.

Bibs she’s worn: I’ve now run that 15k race four times, two official half marathons in the US and one half that I raced on my own here, trying to break 2 hours. I did, 1:58:17, but it was far from official so I’m not sure I can claim that time as my PR, though I did make my own bib and train like it was the real deal.

I’ve done three marathons: Twin Cities 2011, Fargo 2012 (PR: 4:16), and Somaliland 2018 (second place, 5:02 roughly, total disaster, incredibly awesome experience).

Why running is the perfect expat activity: Things that expats focus on like language learning or developing cultural competency never end. I can’t cross off my to-do list “Learn Somali” or “Get fluent in French” or “Stop making cultural gaffes.” But I can start and finish a run and cross it off. Done. Productive in at least one area of life.

“Extremes. That’s what getting balanced without a thyroid and after surgery feels like.” [Rachel’s Instagram]

A future 26.2: Last fall I was diagnosed with thyroid cancer and am having a hard time being patient with my body after surgery and treatment. But I’m stubborn and that only makes me more determined to do another marathon, my Suck It, Cancer! race.

Crank it up: Winter lows are around 75. Summer highs are around 120. Sometimes there is high humidity, sometimes it’s extremely dry. From April through October, it is just plain hot and the temps don’t change much at night.

What the chork?: Sweat-wicking socks are key. I sweat through my shoes. As in, I leave sweaty footprints through the soles of my shoes, I can pour out the sweat after a long run, sometimes salty foam sweat comes fizzing out the uppers…does anyone else experience this?! I learned a great word: Chork. It is the sound feet make in wet shoes. I chork.

That said, I’ve almost never had a blister and its because of great socks.

#runningwhilefemale, the African edition: Over a decade running here, and I’ve got stories. I’ve been chased, groped, tripped, ogled (like men stop, their mouths drop open, and they stare with eyes bugging out), mocked, insulted, ass-pinched, had liquid dumped on me at a stoplight (thankfully just water; I’ve seen people throw bottles of urine at runners), been run off the road by cars, and stoned.

About a month ago, I sponsored a cancer-fundraising race. I ran alongside three Djiboutian girls (who completed the 10k as their first ever run of that distance!). We all felt rocks hit the backs of our legs and then a stone about the size of an apricot hit me in the temple. That was the first time I’ve been hit in the head. I hollered at the kid, he launched another stone at us, we dodged it, and ran on.

I mostly tried to block out the harassment, until I heard a podcast about #runningwhilefemale and while listening, I started bawling. I realized this has added up to some fear and trauma that I need to deal with.

Partly I do that by talking about it more with local friends and foreign friends, and speaking out against the harassment. Partly I do that by refusing to give into fear and harassment, and continuing to run.

It’s not all bad, part I: I once ran past a group of nomadic Somali men. They started talking about me and they were asking each other, “What is it?” “It’s a man.” “No, it has breasts. It’s a woman.” “But it’s running.”

They concluded I was a man.

It’s not all bad, part II: Once, I apparently ran right past a snake and didn’t see it. A taxi driver picked it up and started driving after me. I ignore all honks and cars, because it is usually negative, but he persisted.

So I finally glanced up and he said, “You barely missed getting bit by this snake.” He had run over it with his taxi and now had it in a plastic bag in the passenger seat. The thing was big, but I don’t know what kind.

We still see each other a few times a year and he always honks and cheers for me.

And part III: I love the camaraderie I feel with other runners here. Once in a while I see big groups of Djiboutian soldiers running and they will sing and clap for me in rhythm with their feet. I also love the moments when someone cheers me on, which are far more common than the harassment.

“I love the way running has rooted me to this place. I know the streets, the buildings and the shade they cast, the desert, the ocean, the sunrise, the heat, the call to prayer from the various mosques, the neighbors. I know the distances and the potholes, the effect of temperatures, the faces of others out early in the morning, the wild parrots, the scent of jasmine in the springtime. Running has imprinted Djibouti into my very bones.”

Sharing the love: I started a program in 2008 called Girls Run 2 They are featured in a Runners World and Saucony documentary called Finding Strong, from 2013.

The origin story: The two women who got me into running and I would go to the stadium to train. These young girls kept coming to the track. None of them were in school, and none of the local teams would take these particular girls, because they said they were troublemakers, belonged at home, were too likely to get pregnant.

But they kept coming to the track and wanted to join a team; to participate in races, you need to be on a team. So we started Girls Run 2 with the vision of helping them run, race, and get an education, while also developing character and building community.

In order to join, they had to stay in school or in a job skills training course. We helped them enroll and developed programs like sewing and cooking classes.

Since it started in 2008, we’ve had two girls participate in the Olympics. The current coach is a young woman who was on the team way back in 2009. Next year she is starting university, which will be our first girl to make it that far.

The girls are tough and can be a challenge, but they also love participating in something and feeling that the coach and others believe in them, and they believe in success for themselves.

Reaction to Girls Run 2: It varies. One family, when they found out their daughter was running, threatened to throw the coach in jail if she allowed the girl to continue.

I used to be told that our girls should go home to the kitchen, or that our uteruses might fall out, but I rarely hear those things anymore. Now that they see women can run and still have babies or that women who have children, like me, are physically capable of running, people are opening up.

This year, one thirteen-year-old raced in a 3k. Policemen blocked off the roads for the race and one of them was her father. He saw her finish and was so proud of her, he almost cried. He gave her 100 franc, about sixty cents—a fortune to her—and told her to buy some candy. A gesture like that was huge and really encouraging.

“NO WAY would I not finish. I did, and placed second (out of three women, only two finished, but I wasn’t last overall this time!). I took so long to finish, my trophy was stolen.”

The most epic race, period. The Somaliland Marathon. Favorite and hardest and worst. But it was such a privilege to run there, to feel so supported, to conquer a lot of my fears.

The week before the race I sat with other expatriates in Somaliland and they gave me phone numbers and tips for what side streets to duck down in case I would need help or an escape route. Another said, “A 5k, okay. But a marathon? That’s enough time for someone to decide they don’t like women running in their streets, go home and get their AK-47, come back and take care of the problem.”

In other words, everyone was afraid.

And personally, I had some PTSD from our evacuation and from the murders all those years before. I started cramping by mile 8 and vomiting around mile 18 and probably should have quit. A police follow car was assigned to me specifically. At one point it zoomed up ahead and I convinced myself it did that to ward off would-be al-Shabaab hostage takers. Turned out, one of the officers just need to pee into the bushes.

All that makes the race sound terrible.

But it wasn’t. It was awesome. People came out and cheered for me. Some ran along with me for a while. They clapped when I would start running again after vomiting. They were so supportive.

And I felt like I was running “for women.” For the right of women to participate, for freedom. It sounds melodramatic, and maybe it was, but I felt like I was running with all the Somali female athletes’ hopes on my shoulders and their strength in my body and I just had to finish.

NO WAY would I not finish. I did, and placed second (out of three women, only two finished, but I wasn’t last overall this time!). I took so long to finish, my trophy was stolen.

So even though that PTSD and my exhaustion from being so afraid kept me from running my best, I was running past my past, forging new memories of Somaliland, and reclaiming my courage, proving women can run marathons in Somalia. My big dream now is to bring a Somali woman to that marathon finish line.

One of Rachel’s runners–and her flock.

Advice for those who want to run internationally, especially in a place where running isn’t a thing:  Running is one of my favorite ways to experience cities when I travel, so I really encourage people to get out there and do it.

First, though, especially in places where it might not be common, ask someone about safety or routes or clothing modesty.

Bring your phone. Don’t bring headphones: Not just for safety, but so that you can hear this new place and enjoy it on that level.

And don’t judge the place based on how people receive you as a runner. By that I mean you might be misreading a gesture or a stare if you only think of it as critical. In Somalia, yes, people stared and in Djibouti, yes, people sometimes harass.

But I have seen some of those same people change and start to embrace sport. And, I’ve talked with them about what is behind the stare: often it is surprised delight or feeling personally encouraged to run themselves.

It can be really easy to negatively interpret cross-cultural interactions and I urge people to give others the benefit of the doubt.

Rachel will be entered into a (very small) lottery with the other Mother Runners of the Month in 2019 to win a free registration to an AMR Retreat in 2020. (Read: 1 in 11 odds!)

Know somebody (it may be yourself!) that is deserving of the Mother Runner of the Month title?
Submit a nomination!

#362: Weighty Matters, Pt. II: Fighting Chub + Expanding Palate of Picky Eaters

In the second of a 2-part weight-loss series: Sarah and Dimity talk with two real-world mother runners about their “weighty issues,” as well as two experts who offer advice.

First is a young mom of three who shares her struggle of creeping weight gain, leaving her focusing on the “chub” she sees in photos. Body-positive researcher Charlotte Markey, Ph.D., a professor of psychology at Rutgers University, offers insight into recalibrating body perception and body-posi advice for greater contentment.

The next two guests—a mom of a daughter with finicky eating habits and Jill Castle, M.S., R.D., the author of myriad books about childhood nutrition—delve deep into food issues. Jill suggests ways to get everyone in a family to eat more vegetables while also letting teens make decisions about food choices. Learn how to work with your child to formulate a plan for food.

In the intro, Dimity and Sarah discuss recent big events in their lives of their teens—a Minnesota volleyball tournament for Dimity’s daughter and dance showcases for Sarah’s 8th-grade son. The first guest joins the conversation at 11:07.

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