Sarah and co-host Ellison chat in the intro, then the episode has Sarah as a guest on a podcast called The Four Top, a roundtable discussion with the co-authors of Good Food, Great Medicine. Topics covered include carbohydrates, protein bars, and bowls. Definitely listen to hear Sarah’s TMI question about corn!

In the intro, Ellison talks about defending her age-group title in a hometown 5K. Then, of course, the convo turns to books: Ellison is savoring Pachinko, while SBS is engrossed by The Golden Age of Murder. (It’s less creepy than it sounds!) This leads the ladies to sing the praises of non-fiction books. The Four Top episode starts at 23:50.

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