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Dimity and Sarah are joined by Summer Sanders, winner of four Olympic medals in swimming who has been a runner for two decades. A mom of two, Summer shares how she shifted from being a serious athlete to a social one (even though Dim and Sarah think her 3-hours-and-change marathons are plenty serious!). From there, Summer dispenses more excellent running and training advice than pretty much the entire AMR book trilogy —everything from the importance of occasionally skipping a workout to holding back in the first mile of a race. You’ll probably be able to hear the marbles in Sarah’s head rolling around as she eagerly nods when Summer says, “When you hit the wall, you can decide to either be stuck behind it or bust through it.” Summer also gives swimming tips for triathletes-in-training.

In short: This podcast is overflowing with insight and advice.

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