Sarah Bowen Shea and Maggie Palmer dive into a candid conversation with Mirna “The Mirnavator” Valerio, the author of A Beautiful Work in Progress, which was an extension of her Fat Girl Running blog. Mirna, a plus-size ultramarathoner of color, talks about how she feels about the public attention she garners, including how she shuts out naysayers. She reveals how she feels about “failing pretty publically” in some races. Mirna shares how she practices visual and visceral self-love.

A finisher of 22 marathons and ultras, Mirna offers loads of advice for ultrarunners as well as giving a suggestion for an ideal first-time marathon. Find out how bacon enters the conversation. And applaud what she says about walking in a running race. The Mirnavator joins the episode at 8:01.