No matter what distance you run (or want to run!), you’ll be motivated by this episode featuring prolific pro runner (an aspiring pro pickleballer!) Michael Wardian. In a convo with Sarah and Coach Liz, Mike shares:

-his excitement of pacing a visually impaired runner in the NYC Marathon;
-details of his recent cross-country (CA to DE) run;
-how he continues to find races that “light up” his enthusiasm;
-trail running gear recommendations, including his favorite hydration vests;
-parallels between running and pickleball; and,
-how running an ultra can be easier than a marathon!

In the intro, the hosts talk about their kids’ Halloweens, and Coach Liz recounts some interesting details about the recent Ironman World Championships in Hawaii. The guest hops on at 7:40.