Sarah and co-host Amanda Loudin have a good gab with Jean Chatzky, the financial editor of the TODAY Show and author of numerous books, including the just-released AgeProof: Living Longer without Running out of Money or Breaking a Hip. The three mother runners kick things off with talk of running trails and gourmet food, then Jean shares her start in a running—a group decision, it turns out. Jeans talks about her best running friend, who she’s been getting in the miles for more than two decades! Jean reveals intriguing intersections between health and finances, including four things completely in your control that you can do to improve your chances of living a longer, healthier life. She talks about why a small level of stress can “keep you on your game.” The ladies bond over sports bra lamentations, and Jean gives tips for making your running budget go the extra mile. The conversation reaches a hair-raising conclusion.

Before diving into financials, though, hear about Sarah’s Seattle adventures with her 11-year-old twins, including an Ariana Grande concert and a visit to the mind-blowing Chihuly Garden and Glass Museum.

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