Whether you struggle to make things just-so, or are merely fascinated by the drive for perfectionism, this episode is an enlightening listen. With hosts Sarah and Amanda, three-peat guest Kate Kneifel, a licensed clinical social worker + mother runner, details:

-the difference between healthy striving and perfectionism;

-how + why comparison is the road to nowhere;

-setting boundaries to prevent problematic comparisons;

-ways to break out of the binary of doing v. not-doing;

-why being a rebel can help break the hold of tech devices; and,

-the antidote to perfectionism.

Before Kate joins around 7:28, Amanda shares prestigious, running-related work news. Listen to the end of the ep to catch Coach Liz talking about two well-crafted books that give life-changing guidance in a laughter-filled Miles of Books.