If you follow the running world in any way, you’ve probably heard of Sally McRae. Maybe you follow her on Instagram, you’ve tried her strength training app, listened to her podcast, watched her YouTube channel, or cheered her on during one of her Badwater races. But you likely haven’t heard or seen this side of Sally: Vulnerable, real, raw, and totally transparent. On this episode, hosts Dimity and Sarah Wassner Flynn have a moving conversation with Sally about topics including:

what inspired her to write Choosing Strong, her recently-released memoir which draws back the curtain on her tumultuous childhood;
how she defines strength and why it extends far beyond the physical;
body image and self-acceptance; and
what she’s training for next (hint: It’s a very long run!).

Before Sally hops on, Dimity & SWF wax nostalgic about their (separate but similar) rollerblading adventures in NYC. Listen all the way through to hear Nourished on the Run, a new bonus segment with Dimity + Ellie Kempton, RD, MSN. The two talk celebrate fruits of summer—and a unique way to navigate a farmer’s market.